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November 02, 2006


Just goes to show how complete was the feminization of this generation. A silly caricature of masculinity has now become the defining norm for it.
When will this insanity stop?

I think Greg would put this is the "spiritually weird" category.

This is too far. Manly does not have to be dirty or purile. But they're understandably reacting against the all too common notion that a good Christian man must be a doormat.

It is sad to see that some people feel in order to reach men we have to use vulgar language and be shallow.

I think that John Eldridge's book Wild At Heart does a better job casting the vision of what true biblical manhood should look like.

"Buckle up. This is GodMen!" What does this mean??

This doesn't sound like a way I would want to spend my Saturday!

As someone who's never fit into certain male stereotypes, I hate these caricatures of masculinity. Yes, I do believe that feminization of the church has occurred and that the lack of authentic masculinity is a problem -- key word authentic. I don't think stunts like this will help anything, though.

When I read the article, what I hated to see was their attributing their actions to Dave Murrow's book "Why Men Hate Going to Church." I've read it, and it's an awesome book. IMO it's even better than Wild at Heart. I hate to see this stunt attributed to his work and drag his name through the mud.

This is sad on so many levels.

I am scared to comment...but I will. I am not sure what to say. I think that this is another lame attempt for SOME ppl to shock the public and cause an uproar.
Can that be made into a positive? I think so...it has sparked many Christian men to respond to this blog with integrity and an apological viewpoint.

I saw men get interested in our church when we moved from talk to action. The handy types liked the mission construction projects, others liked gathering and handing out food, some liked praying for and with others in front of porn shops, I liked teaching. Bottom line, I think men need action. This "new" thing sounds like activity, not action. They will need a quick transition from activity to action or the men will quickly loose interest.

Some good thoughts here - thanks to you all. It is easy to point out negative ascepts, and that ought to be done - we do need to help sharpen each other. One additional thought: Gal 6.8 "He that sows to his own flesh, shall reap corruption from [it]." What part of our being responds to productions of this nature?

One the other hand, God can still overrule. We need to be mindful that a vaccum is being filled for a reason. Let us be and do our part: whether within, towards our wives or in the church to be and act as men.

I fail to see any major problem with the event. Some of the music and video screen content seems a bit tacky; but I generally like what Brad Stine (comedian), Paul Coughlin (Speaker), and Nate Larkin (speaker) are doing. I'd suggest doing some research on the people involved with the program as well, before drawing conclusions from one single newsweek article (if that's the case).

Oh, it was a Newsweek article? I missed that. I still think the event itself sounds stupid and stereotypical, but if the info is from Newsweek it has to be taken with a grain of salt. It's a horrible publication.

This kind of creeped me out; perhaps this should be considered in the context of the present situation in Colorado. I found this on the Godmen Blog: http://www.godmen.org/blog/2006/08/man-church.html

This was reminding me of something; I suddenly got some clarity and I can't stop laughing. This is the Christian version of NO MA'AM (google it).

It is always important to recall the resource and context of all the messages you receive. It doesn't mean you can't laugh or enjoy yourself. Uptightedness does make a person empty. Love, joy, commitment doesn't. Breathe it...do not surpress it. Be true to yourself and those around you. A conscious heart will reign and ultimately superceed. God is love... and so be it.

I very sorry, I'm trying to understand you, but I have no idea what that post means or how it relates to the topic of the thread, other than to maybe say lighten up(?).

Leaders of the church are not suppose to use profanity.

You can't go against the bible's teachings while tending the flock.

It's just flocking riduculous.

Mr Snell...
I was merely suggesting that you have to consider the source and vehicle in which messages are conveyed.

I am not certain that all people attending that function were really going there to have a "religious" experience but more to enjoy themselves.

I don't necessarily agree with the presentation or forum but it seems that it drew many to attend. I am assuming that it did spark people to think about "things".

As far as lightening up, sometimes we should but without compromising ourselves or our beliefs.

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