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December 21, 2013

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This is so helpful, thank you!

Since the christian revelation is based on historical facts then is important to validated these facts with historical proofs and I think the New Testament is the best ancient document with proofs of his veracity.

And I like the conclusion we shouldn't expect to find corroboration for every claim but right now he have a good amount of evidence that gave us reasonable faith that the claims that doesn't have corroboration are correct.

And I like the conclusion we shouldn't expect to find corroboration for every claim but right now he have a good amount of evidence that gave us reasonable faith that the claims that doesn't have corroboration are correct.

In fact, this concept is readily accepted and used by scholars when it comes to other secular ancient texts. For example, no one doubts that Homer wrote the Iliad and the Odyssey, and yet we have far less evidence and corroboration for Homer's authenticity than we do for even one book of the New Testament, let alone the whole thing. Even so, scholars are quick to rely on some parts of those works to prop up their ideas about the ancient Greek world...

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In fact, Homeric authorship is a huge controversy with no agreeable resolution. More info here.

A far better analogy is Celsus' report that Jesus of Nazareth was fathered by a Roman soldier called Panthera. By Wallace's logic above, this report is "corroborated" by the archaeological discovery of a gravestone dedicated to Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera, a standard bearer in a Roman military unit which appears to have been stationed in Judea around the time of Jesus' conception.

Of course, this archaeological discovery does not overcome the implausibility of Celsus' tale. Similarly with the NT.

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Pantera, or, Panthera, existed, apparently. Then, parenthood: not so much. It’s a matter of compiling the preponderance of available evidence. 67% trumps 57%.

Methodologically, repeated demonstrations, over time, of scriptural references vs. historicity’s eventual validations thereof have led us to expect future demonstrations to follow similarly successful vectors. This is one of (there are others) the reliability factors of scripture. When one’s presupposition is working methodologically, there seems to be no reason to presume another.

Plausibility comes with the ability to encompass and coherently explain mind’s perceptions. Hence Hawking makes the decision to follow the evidence ever closer towards Genesis 1:1 and leave behind Time and Material in favor of the Timeless Immaterial. Whether he follows the measurable evidence into the coherence of Cosmic Intention, or, whether he presupposes, methodologically, naturalism and chooses to believe in Imaginary Spheres for which we have no measurable evidence still remains to be seen.

The Theist, on all of these fronts, finds no reason to change methodology, as his presuppositions just seem to work.

That’s the encompassing / plausibility thing.

Of course, here too, we find the hopelessness of any attempt to insist upon a diagnosis of Pan-Psychosis on all that is Mind.

Interestingly, everybody knows that Timelessness and Time just do, at some juncture, amalgamate, as Un-Derived touches Derived.

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