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August 31, 2006

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I often wonder at those who think taking money from other people by force (taxation) to help the needy is "compassionate." It certainly is easier than reaching into our own pockets voluntarily. This is not to say the government ought not to help, but it used to be recognized that this was the responsibility of the church. Now that the government is doing it, we "don't have to." Maybe if we as a church did our part, the government wouldn't need to.

I don't understand, and maybe itis my failing, why both the government AND individuals can't address this issue. Why must only one or the other be involved? Why can't private organizations such as churches etc. work together with government to help those in need? Why this insistance of either or, but not both? Why can't we all be partners in this common cause? Is common cause only to be practiced in the cause of abortions? Why?

Louis
It's not a question of either/or rather than both. The problem is one of roles and responsibilities, and how fallen humans handle these things. Governments start out "helping," and then the "help" turns into a source of political power. Money that could be given gets paid in taxes. We often hear the outcry when a fundraiser for a charity keeps more than 10, 20, or more percent of the take for "administrative costs." Where is the outcry when the goverment takes a dollar in taxes for social programs and only 22 cents gets to the recipient?
Perhaps a good partnership scenario would be where the governments pass along the names of charities to people in need and the names of people in need to charities and got out of the way.
It's not only a problem of fallen government. Christians who still struggle with the flesh see government programs as an excuse not to support church based charities.

Very good posts. Daniel I agree with you. It's very easy to be altruistic with other people's hard earned money. The Constitution says that the federal government is to "promote" the general welfare and "provide" for the common defense and not vice versa.

In the past I've posted on the UCC (United Church of Christ) web site and most of those people lean very much toward the "Marxist" view of society but they say that they're Christians. Many of them don't even know what the gospel of salvation is, but I've argued that we could do alot more good if as individuals we gave to charities and to people and held them responsible for what was intrusted to them.

I hope you will be interested in spanning the whole genealogy from Adam to Jesus so as to encourage young apologetic students there with the following numerical facts that will out-do the Da Vinci Code. I am calling the following Christmatics. Enjoy!

In the book Theomatics, the phrase "Glory of Christ" adds up to "3300" in Greek gematria. Also the phrase "Riches in Glory in Christ Jesus" adds up to "4100". What is the probability that the following is simply a matter of chance? Between Joseph #41 and Joseph #66, the middle group of 3 groups of 33 generations each is listed and numbered below from the New Testament Biblical genealogy of Jesus among 3 groups of 33 generations each.

When the generations listed in St. Matthew chapter 1 and St. Lule chapter 3 are combined as a single list of generations in the New Testament's genealogy of Jesus, the count is shown to be numbered between Adam #001, and Jesus #100, spanning over Noah #010 perfectly. Those 99 named generations can be shown to consist of three groups of 33 generations each, with the middle group found between Joseph #41 (Joseph the father of Judah, found 7 generations after King David going down Nathan's branch of King David's split genealogy) and Joseph #66, the husband of the virgin Mary. Joseph #66 (Joseph the husband of Mary) is found at the end of King Solomon's branch of King David's split genealogy. Also, with respect to St. Matthew chapter 1 verse 17, the list includes 3 groups of 7 generations each before Abraham. The great flood happened in the middle of the central group of 7 generations each.

I see the "Glory of Christ" ("3300") as "3 groups of 33 generations", with Jesus having been crucified at the age of "33", and raised from the dead "3 days" later.

I see the "Riches in glory in Christ Jesus" ("4100") keyed to Joseph (Joseph "#41") the father of Judah, found "7 generations" after King David going down Nathan's branch of the split genealogy of King David. The riches begins in Genesis 1:1. There, in Hebrew gematria, the alphabets of the "first 7 Hebrew words of the Torah" add up to 2701 from it's 28 Hebrew alphabets.

As shown in Theomatics, the Greek alphabets that spell JESUS add up to 888. Also, as noted prior, the Hebrew alphabets of Genesis 1:1 add up to 2701. 2701 divided by 888 = 3."041""66" for (3)./Joseph ("#41")/Joseph ("#66") exactly bracketing the "middle group of 33 generations" between Joseph ("Joseph #41") the father of Judah, and Joseph ("Joseph #66") the husband of the virgin Mary ("Mary/Jesus #100").

In support of the above statements, the following is a numbered list of the generations as per St. Matthew ch 1 and St. Luke ch 3 combined as they are recorded in the King James version of the New Testament.

The two phrases "Glory Of Christ", and "Riches in glory in Christ Jesus" are both "HITs" in Christmatics Bible code. The HITs are both with respect to Joseph #41 (ref 4100) being found at the numerical center of the genealogy as the 41st generation. The center is located 7 generations after King David, when the genealogy of Jesus as per St. Matthew ch 1 and St Luke ch 3 are carefully numbered. The space between Joseph #41 and his son Judah, is numerically exactly at the center of it all. The numbered list below shows 3 groups of 33 generations.. The middle group of 33 generations (i.e. Glory Of Christ @ 3300) found between Joseph #41, and Joseph #66 is amazing. Joseph #41 was the father of Judah #67 (Judah opt. #42) in Nathan's branch, 33 generation before Joseph #66 was the husband of the virgin Mary #100. At the end of King Solomon's branch of King David's split genealogy, Mary #100 was the daughter of Heli #99.

The number 2701 from the first 7 words of the Hebrew Torah have been interpreted as Genesis 1:1. There, 10 English words are recorded QUOTE In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. UNQUOTE.

The Greek alphabets gematria of the name JESUS total 888. So then, let us divide the number of the Greek name of Jesus into the number of the first 7 words of the Hebrew Torah. 2701 divided by 888 = 3.04166, a fantastic HIT because 37 x 73 = 2701, while the number 37 is the 12th prime number, and the number 73 is the 21st prime number. I respect the claim of Jesus as being the Alpha and Omega in all of God's creation. Joseph #41 and Joseph #66 are like book ends bracketing the middle group of 33 generations each, exactly. Ancient Joseph with the coat of many colors dreamed the dream of his sheaf stand tall, and Joseph's brothers sheaves all bowing down to Joseph's sheaf when he was 17 years old. By the way, the number 17 is the 7th prime number. And would you happen to know what the 6th prime number is? It is the number 13.

I have been interested in the numbers of generations between Adam #001 and Christ Jesus #100 because of St. Matthew 1:17. There, 3 groups of 14 generations each are stated. Also, because the Prophet Haggai (ref. Haggai 2:16 & 23) seems to have given us clues that something important is happening with God's signet Zorobabel #050. Zorobabel (spelled Zerubbabel in the Old Testament) is the last person in the Old Testament genealogy of Jesus. I believe that I have solved the riddle of Hagga 2:16 even though Canaan, the son of Arphaxad, is not listed in the Old Testament genealogy. Mysterously, the missing Cainan #13 in the Old Testament at first seems to disrupt the numerical patterns in the numbers of generations as per St. Matthew ch 1 and St. Luke ch 3, and other Biblical statements. But I will comment more about this with an additional scriptural reference next.

The following generations are numbered according to their sequential listing in St. Matthew ch 1 and St. Luke ch 3. Please consider the possible reason for Cainan being omitted in the Old Testament genealogy being because Canaan the younger son of Ham was cursed by Noah. The reason probably being because Canaan may have been found by Ham to be having sex with a daughter, or great-grand-daughter of Noah. It states in the Old Testament (ref Lev 18:6-17) that a person having sex with the wife or daughter of a man is uncovering the nakedness of that husband. This I believe applies to the reported nakedness of Noah #010. This may be why Noah cursed Ham's younger son named Canaan (probably the same person's name spelled Cainan in St. Luke 3:36).

In The GENEALOGY OF JESUS, THE 1ST OF 3 BRANCHES
OF 33 GENERATIONS LISTED BELOW IS THE "ROOT OF DAVID"
.
000 : GOD ***Abram's Sacrifice Ref. Genesis 15:9-10.

01 ADAM ......1......1 half Ram, 3 yr old ***
02 SETH ......2........2
03 ENOS .....3...........3
04 CAINAN 4.....1 half Heifer, 3 yr old ***
05 MELELEEL .5......2
06 JARED ......6......3
07 ENOCH ........7.....1 half She Goat, 3 yr old ***
08+MATHUSALEH++(1)..2
09+LEMECH +++++(2)....3
10+NOAH ++++++(3).Whole Pigeon ***

THE GREAT FLOOD, REF NOAH's ARK happened here,
centeral within the middle group of 3 groups of 7 generations each.
Note: SHEM #11's brothers are not in the genealogy of Jesus,
but they are brothers of the same generation : Ham #11 and Japheth #11

11+SHEM ++++++(4).Whole Turtle Dove***
12+ARPHAXAD+++(5)..1 half Ram, 3 yr old ***
13+CAINAN+++++ ***2***
14+SALA ++++++(7) ....3
15 HEBER ....1..............1 half Heifer, 3 yr old ***
16 PHALEC ...2................2
17 RAGAU ...3..................3
18 SARUCH ...4..............1 half She Goat, 3 yr old ***
19 NACHO ....5................2
20 THARA ....6.................3 (end Abram's sacrifice) ***
21 ABRAHAM ..7 /1 NOTE :
3 groups of 7 generations each above.
22 ISAAC .....2 NOTE : St. Matt 1:17 : 3 groups of 14 generations each below.
23 JACOB .....3
24 JUDA ......4
25 PHARES ....5
26 ESROM .....6
27 ARAM ......7
28 AMINADAB...8
29 NAASON ....9
30 SALMON ....10
31 BO0Z ......11
32 OBED ......12
33 JESSE......13

THE 2ND OF 3 BRANCHES OF 33 GENERATIONS EACH
BEGINS WITH JESSE'S SON, KING DAVID #34.

AFTER KING DAVID #34 THE GENEALOGY IS SPLIT BETWEEN
KING DAVID'S SONS, brothers NATHAN and King Solomon.
Both brothers are counted as in the #35th generation, like as
the three sons of Noah are all counted as in the #11th generation
(See Note Above)

BECAUSE OF THE SPLIT, THE NUMBERED GENERATIONS
RECORDED AFTER KING DAVID'S SONS ARE OPTIONAL ( ref. No / So)
NOTE; King Solomon's branch is written in lower case alphabets.
NOTE; BROTHER NATHAN'S BRANCH IS WRITTIN IN UPPER CASE.

34 KING DAVID ...14
No#35 NATHAN /No.1
So#35 King Solomon / So.1 (ref St. Matt 1:17)
36 / MATTATHA /
37 MENAN /
38 MELEA /
39 ELIAKIM /
40 JONAN /
41 JOSEPH /
42 / So#36 Roboam .2
43 / So#37 Abia .3
44 / So#38 Asa .4
45 / So#39 Josaphat .5
46 / So#40 Jorem .6
47 / So#41 Ozias .7
48 / So#42 Jotham .8
49 / So#43 Achaz .9
50 / So#44 Ezekias .10
51 / So#45 Manasses .11
52 / So#46 Amon .12
53 / So#47 Josias .13
54 / So#48 Jechonias 14:.(1)
55 / So#49 Salathiel …….....(2)
56 / So#50 * Zorobabel .…..(3)
(God's signet ref Haggai 2:23
Note 50 IS HALF OF 100 CORNERSTONE.
Old Testament Genealogy of Jesus #100
ends with Zorobabel So#50
and/or Zorobabel No#50))
57................Abiud...H1 (4)
58................Eliakim.H2 (5)
59................Azor....H3 (6)
60................Sadoc...H4 (7)
61................Achim...H5 (8)
62................Iliud...H6 (9)
63................Eleazar.H7 (10)
64................Matthan.H8 (11)
65................Jacob...H9 (12)
66................Joseph..H10 (13)
(heap H1-H10 ref Haggai 2:16)

IN THE ABOVE LIST, NOTE King Solomon's Branch : So# OPT.
IN THE LIST BELOW, NOTE NATHAN'S BRANCH : No# OPT.
THE 3RD OF 3 BRANCHES OF 33 GENERATIONS EACH
BEGINS WITH THE SON OF JOSEPH #41 NAMED AND
NUMBERED JUDAH #67. OF COURSE JUDAH #67 COULD HAVE BEEN
NUMBERED #42. BUT JUDAH IS PREFERRABLY NUMBERED 67 / No#36
SO AS TO REVEAL GOD'S SIGNET ZOROBABEL * PRESSVAT 50 AS PER HAGGAI 2:16 & 2:23.
*A ZOROBABEL (spelled Zerubbabel) IS THE LAST PERSON IN THE OLD TESTAMENT'S GENEALOGY OF JESUS.

67 / No#36 JUDAH
68 / No#37 SIMEON
69 / No#38 LEVI
70 / No#39 MATTHAT
71 / No#40 JORIM
72 / No#41 ELIEZER
73 / No#42 JOSE
74 / No#43 ER
75 / No#44 ELMODAM
76 / No#45 COSAM
77 / No#46 ADDI
78 / No#47 MELCHI
79 / No#48 NERI
80 / No#49 SALATHIEL
81 / No#50 * ZOROBABEL.....H1 (God's signet ref Haggai 2:23)
82................RHESA.....…..H2
83................JANNA.....…..H3
84................JUDAH.....…..H4
85................JOSEPH....…..H5
86................SEMEI.....…..H6
87................MATTATHIAS...H7
88................MAATH......….H8
89................NAGGE......….H9
90................ELSI......……H10
91................NAUM......….H11
92................AMOS......….H12
93................MATTATHIAS..H13
94................JOSEPH....….H14
95................JANNA...…...H15
96................MELCHI......H16
97................LEVI.....…..H17
98................MATTHAT....…H18
99................HELI........H19
100...MARY..(H : heap)....H20 (14)
(heap H1-H20 ref Haggai 2:16-23 : signet Zorobabel Pressvat 50 fits both So#50 & No#50)

THIS CONCEPT CLAIMS THAT HELI #99 HAD A DAUGHTER NAMED MARY, WHO MARRIED Joseph #66. Joseph #66 IS ACCORDINGLY THE "as was supposed (SON IN LAW)" OF HELI #99.

WITH RESPECT TO ST. MATTHEW 1:17, AT THE END OF THE 3RD GROUP OF 14 GENERATIONS, FIND THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION : #100 BABY JESUS IN THE VIRGIN WOMB OF MARY #100.

* NOTE: This concept further assumes that Cainan #13 (spelled Canaan in Genesis 9:22, spelled Cainan in St. Lukd 3:36), son of Arphaxad #12, is a descendant of Ham. The assumption here is that Ham must have discovered a sexual act of Canaan with either the wife, or with a daughter or great grand-daughter of Noah. Accordingly, that daughter or grand-daughter, or great-grand-daughter of Noah, or that wife of Noah, could have been put to death along with Canaan, having been cursed by Noah, and as per Lev 18:8 : Quote: The nakednes of thy fathers wife thou shalt not uncover : it is the fathers nakedness. unquote. The removal of the name of Canaan from the Old Testament genealogy (ref Gen. 11 : 12 & 13) is probably because of Canaan (Cainan#13) sinfully having fathered a descendant of Noah #010.

In Greek gematria, the phrase "Glory Of Christ" adds up to "3300". Also, the phrase "Riches in glory in Christ Jesus" adds up to "4100". In the above listing, note that the "Root Of David" ends with the father of King David, namely Jesse #33. The whole listing consists of three groups of thirty-three generations each. The middle group of 33 generations each begins with Joseph #41 counting backwards 7 generations to King David #34, and then continuing forward after Nathan #35's brother King Solomon #35. The count resumes with King Solomon's son Robaom #36 going on to Jacob #65's son named and numbered Joseph #66. There we have the ending of King Solomon's descendants with Joseph #66 who married the virgin Mary #100. But when Cainan #13 is omitted in the numbering sequence, then both the "Glory Of Christ" together with his offering of the forgiveness of sins, and the "Riches in glory in Christ Jesus" are numerically hidden until the nakedness of Noah #010 is covered.

This concept is strengthened by the gematria of the Greek name of JESUS adding up to 888. That is because the gematria of the first 7 words of the Hebrew Torah (translated now as the first ten English words of the Old Testament's Genesis 1:1) add up to 2701. 2701 is the sum from gematria of the first 7 Hebrew word's constructed from two groups of 14 Hebrew alphabets each. Fourteen in the subject/predicated portion of that first Hebrew verse, and fourteen alphabets in it's object. Also note that the sum of 2701 is the product of the multiplication of the 12th prime number (37 is the 12th prime number) times the 21st prime number (73 is the 21st prime number). 2701 divided by 888 = 3.04166, I.e. 3 branches of 33 generations keyed with the middle group of 33 generations being found exactly between Joseph #41, (Joseph #41 ie 3.041xx found 7 generations after King David going down Nathan's branch of King David's split genealogy) and Joseph #66 (i.e.Joseph 3.0xx66) found married to Heli #99's daughter the virgin Mary #100 located at the end of King Solomon's descendants (ref St. Luke 3:23-38).

When the above is understood, the Greek gematria from the Greek alphabets interpreted "Glory Of Christ = 3300" and "Riches in Glory in Christ Jesus = 4100" becomes questionable when Salah is recorded to be the son of Arphaxad in Genesis 11 : 12-13 rather than Cainan being recorded as the son of Arphaxad in St. Luke 3:36. (It appears now that Cainan, son of Arphaxad, has not been found recorded in the earliest copies of our New Testament records prior to about the time of about 220 AD.)

Also, the grouping of 3 groups of 7 generations each between Adam #01 and Abraham #21 are broken up when Cainan #13, son of Arphaxad #12 is missing. Accordingly, the sacrifice that Abraham offered to God of 3 each 3 year old animals each cut in half, and a pigeon and a turtle dove both whole upon the altar, no longer fits numerically perfect with Noah #10 and his wife as the pigeon, and their 3 sons Shem, Ham, and Japheth all of the #11th generation, and their wives as the whole turtle dove, all safe at the time of the great flood in Noah's ark. Agreed, there were 9 generations each prior to Noah and his wife, but according to the Old Testament Bible, there were only 8 generations each after Noah's three sons and their wives, prior to Abraham. But when Cainan #13 is added perfectly according to St. Luke 3:36, then there are also 9 generations each (3 x 3 = 9) after Noah's three sons prior to Abraham and his brutal sacrifice. It appears that St. Luke understood that Abraham's sacrifice was a blood covenant between he and God covering all past and future generations. Accordingly, obedient animal sacrifices offerings between Adam #01 and Christ Jesus #100 were needed for the covering of those sins. But now, thankfully, Jesus is our savior, called the Lamb Of God. He shed His blood in payment for all the sins of the world that were confessed to Him via the animal sacrifices in the time BC, or will now have been confessed by us in the AD years. So, by faith, we may realize God's graceful forgiveness of our confessed sins.

I propose that the Grace of God is accountable to all mankind as revealed by the shed blood of the Lamb Of God : Jesus Christ, to the "Glory Of Christ", and to the "Riches In Glory In Christ Jesus" to believers.

Christmatics by Waldo N. Larson

"Where is the outcry when the goverment takes a dollar in taxes for social programs and only 22 cents gets to the recipient?"

Daniel would you please provide some background on your assertion?

Waldo, where are you?

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