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January 26, 2007

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This topic always makes me think of something I once read:

Banks should not make their facilities safer for armed robbers who intend to inflict harm and steal.

While I have compassion for a woman who has an unintended pregnancy; this issue is very simple; not complex. Don’t shove a coat hanger in yourself; you could hurt yourself and it’s extremely foolish. Part of living in a free society is having the freedom to act like a fool. You shouldn’t however, have the freedom to end another human beings life.

"Dr. Mary Calderone, former medical director for Planned Parenthood, wrote in 1960 that illegal abortions were performed safely by physicians in good standing in their communities...."

Abortion was illegal in 1960, yet the law was increasingly ignored; what has changed in the culture that was make criminalization work now?

Just found this:

http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/reproductive_rights/

Courtesy of Jack Balkin:

http://balkin.blogspot.com/

I'm not sure I understand your argument, Alan. Are you saying that if we can't stop all abortions by making them illegal, it's pointless to do so? What if I took the same attitude toward rape, murder, child abuse, or theft?

Oh, and *everyone* should go read the first article linked by Alan. I'm sure he thinks it makes his case, but it (again) makes the case against abortion. Apparantly, legal wise-guys think that all we need to do is wave the "this is a wanted pregnancy" wand over a fetus, and that suddenly changes the equation. It's almost comical to see the author try to dodge and weave through the minefield that causes.

What if Mom decides she doesn't want her two-year-old? Should she be allowed to kill it? No? Then "wanted/unwanted" is a useless variable in the "can I kill this equation".

This is my favorite quote from the article (which said that the law should not be against harm to the fetus, but against "third-party harm to a pregnant woman"): "Pregnant women in wanted pregnancies suffer a loss greater than the physical harm caused to their own bodies." The irony here is that the author just finished alluding to abortion as an action a woman takes with "her body." Re-read the quote -- if it's "just her body" then there is no additional harm. Foolishness.

Sometimes it's easier for the abortionist to tell stories than stick with facts.

The lurid back-alley stories play better for advancing the pro-abortion position.

"Don’t shove a coat hanger in yourself; you could hurt yourself and it’s extremely foolish."

Actually the evidence was that risky gruesome abortion attempts were just another form of self-mutilation common among women with certain mental illnesses. Mental illnesses that could not, of course, be cured by opening a Planned Parenthood next door.

But the women's real well being isn't the issue for pro-legalization folks, or they'd not be so rabidly opposed to safety regulations.

"Abortion was illegal in 1960, yet the law was increasingly ignored; what has changed in the culture that was make criminalization work now?"

1. Increasingly ignored? Define what you mean. Do you mean more women were doing it, or fewer abortionists were being prosecuted, or both?

2. Everybody's seen an ultrasound on the fridge. It's a lot harder now to pretend that abortion doesn't really kill a baby.

3. There's a huge network of CPCs that didn't exist in the 1960s.

4. Most legal abortions are sold to ambivalent women who wouldn't otherwise seek out abortions.

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