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September 06, 2007


Interesting. "The Parable of the RE-FI"

Re-fi indeed...

Well, this not only illustrates the soteriological difference between Christians (who beleive in salvation by Grace alone) and Mormons (who believe in a works-based salvation), but also the fact that Mormons don't believe Jesus to be God Himself (Jesus is apparently a competitor in the Cosmic motgage business. Heavenly Father: "Lost ANOTHER loan to Jesus!).

Interesting. So Jesus is kind of like a debt consolidator. Or better yet, he's like a new credit card you can transfer your balance to for a lower interest rate.

A good friend of mine often says: "Salvation is not about taking bad people and making them better, salvation is about taking dead people and making them alive."

Hear, hear!

I'm sorry---but it makes sense to me. Do all I can (which will never, ever be enough) and Jesus Christ will make up the difference. What is so confusing about that? That's how I always thought it should be. What a beautiful example of sacrifice and love from my Savior. Without Him, I would be nothing.

I find it interesting that there is actually a parable in the Bible in which tells of a debtor. The moral of the parable was different (that we should forgive others as we have been forgiven) but there some significant differences between these two:
-There is no mediator, it is the creditor who alleviates the debt
-The creditor forgives the whole debt simply out of compassion
-The debtor owes nothing further to the creditor

Check Matthew 18:23-35 for the parable itself; it demonstrates a totally different view of salvation.

To Manon,
Your view is initially very compelling; however it is not very Biblical. So as a fellow Christian I wish to encourage you in the Truth. In James (specifically James 2:10) it says that "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." That is, it doesn't matter how good you are, because it credits you nothing for salvation. Furthermore, I'm inclined to think that such a view ultimately detracts from the saving grace of the Christ's sacrifice. This view is supported by verses such as Galatians 2:21, as well as others.

In the end, remember the warning of 2 Corinthians 11:3-"But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ."
LDS language is designed to make it sound as close to Christian Truth as possible. Keep this in mind, since truth seeks to distance itself from all falsehood, that none would be deceived; but lies seek to imitate the truth, because the best deceits are those closest to the truth while still leading people to the wrong conclusion.

To will_a,
There are many very intellectual and smart people of various religions all saying that they have the truth. I have often found it interesting that with so much study of the Bible and sincere thought, how they can end up having different opinions and what they find to be truths from the same book. Even on a matter so central as what Christ expects of us (repentance and hard work to become more like him, or a simple verbal acceptance of his divine grace, or other options) causes great debate among scholars.

It seems that the only one who might have more knowledge than all of these intellectuals combined would be God himself. He has said in James 1:5 that he would answer questions to all who sincerely ask with Faith. I think Sincerety must go along with that petition for wisdom as God would not want to give us Truths that we would not follow. Thus a sincere desire to know truth and faith to ask and act upon it should provide an answer. I have seen and felt answers to such prayers a few times in my life and they do lead to happiness. Some may say that such revelation is gone and hence it is from the devil, but Christ encouraged us to look for good fruits that bring us closer to him and why would a God that is the same yesterday, today and forever answer the prayers of Moses, but not mine?

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