Sometimes people cite polygamy as evidence that the definition of marriage has changed over time, proving it to be malleable according to the culture.
But even in the case of polygamy, has there really been a change in the definition of marriage?
While I could see someone today wanting to define marriage as one man and multiple women, I don't think that's how people viewed it in the past. That is, they didn't see their situation as one big marriage where everybody was married to everybody else. Rather, marriage was still simply one man and one woman. It's just that the man was allowed to have more than one marriage.
We haven't changed the definition of marriage, we've only limited the number of concurrent marriages a person can have.
I support concurrent marriages personally.
oh ya
Posted by: ToNy | August 23, 2011 at 03:39 AM
ToNy
Considering the rate of divorce, many people can't even handle one. Why compound the problems with many at one time?
Posted by: Louis Kuhelj | August 23, 2011 at 07:35 AM
Why did God bless Jacob's foursome?
Posted by: Mark McNeil | August 23, 2011 at 08:46 AM
This is absolutely not how polygamy has functioned historically. Sure, the women aren't "married" to each other in the fact that they don't view each other as spouses.
But functionally, in the day-to-day life of the family, each is responsible to the whole and vice versa. Each woman is accountable to the other's children, for example, and all children are accountable to each mother.
The argument presented here is based on a terrible misunderstanding of the family dynamics of polygamy and ought to be discarded.
Posted by: brgulker | August 23, 2011 at 09:32 AM
I think Amy is right (though my knee jerk reaction was initially to disagree on this point). Marriage was defined, even in the days of polygamy, as one-man-one-woman.
When a husband divorced one wife in his harem, he did not thereby dissolve a single arrangement between himself and all the women in the harem. He didn't divorce all of his wives. Their marriages remained intact...only the one woman's marriage was dissolved.
And a man didn't marry all the wives in his harem at the same time in a single transaction. Each marriage was its own transaction between husband and wife.
However, I think we are forced to say that marriage is defined, in our society, as a relationship that no person can hold concurrently...it may only be held successively.
So old-style polygamy would violate marriage as defined in our society for a different reason than the one-man-one-woman condition.
Posted by: WisdomLover | August 23, 2011 at 10:47 AM
Well then, we agree, because that's my whole point.
WisdomLover, your point about divorcing one of the wives is an excellent one. I hadn't thought of that way of explaining it.
Posted by: Amy | August 23, 2011 at 11:03 AM
Hmm... if polygamy operates under the same definition of marriage as we have today, then what's wrong with polygamy?
Posted by: Jesse | August 23, 2011 at 05:21 PM
(I think WL answered my question but it's still not entirely clear to me.)
Posted by: Jesse | August 23, 2011 at 05:25 PM
I'd be fine with having the gov't cease to recognize marriage.
It would continue take the same interest in the same aspects of the welfare of children, of course.
Individuals could still make private contracts of domestic partnerships, of course.
How 'bout it? (It looks like this is the best deal you're likely to get.)
RonH
Posted by: RonH | August 23, 2011 at 06:47 PM
When making the definition case for marriage, one can use a marriage between multiple people to express the argument. In other words, simultaneously marrying more than one person is still a reasonable possibility worth pointing out using the ‘consenting adults should be able to do what they please’ concept.
Human beings are a crazy lot. It’s not beyond comprehension that 3 or 4 people might want to enter into a marriage together eventually.
Posted by: KWM | August 24, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Chapter 24 Section 1 of the WCF spoke directly to and answered this question over 300 years ago.
Posted by: JohnT | August 24, 2011 at 02:36 PM
Interesting... I've never thought of it like this before, but you're right on! Jacob, for instance, got married to different women on different occasions, not to 2 women at the same time.
Posted by: Greg Heil | August 24, 2011 at 06:09 PM