Americans are in for a rude awakening. Starting September 2012, some people will wake up to strategically-placed graphic pictures. And they won’t like what they see. But it’s about time. Countless lives are lost because of this “choice.” What’s most surprising is that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) are the ones behind this new graphic image campaign. Why? So people will be outraged by what they see and do something to stop it. I’m talking, of course, about smoking.
That’s right. The FDA is on a mission to get Americans to kick the habit. Taking a cue from the pro-life playbook, they’re going to slap graphic images onto cigarette boxes to depict the health risks of smoking. One disturbing image shows a man holding a cigarette while he blows smoke out of his tracheostomy, which is a surgical hole in the front of his neck that extends into the windpipe. Another picture is a close-up of a person’s mouth with a cancerous tumor on the lip. The caption reads, “Cigarettes cause cancer.”
But I’m mystified by the FDA’s willingness to infringe on a person’s freedom to choose. Aren’t Americans allowed to do what they want with their own bodies? It’s like the abortion-rights slogan, “My body, my choice.” If it’s ever fitting to invoke this right to bodily freedom, it’s when a person chooses to smoke. It’s their body. Therefore, it’s their choice. So why does the FDA want to interfere?
Don’t get me wrong. I’m not trying to defend smoking or downplay its health risks. I’ve worked in hospitals for ten years and seen the damage that cigarette smoking can do. I’ve worked to rehabilitate cancer patients who have lost the strength to sit, stand, and walk. I’ve even dissected deceased human beings and seen the tar-stained lungs of smokers. Do I think cigarette smoking is unhealthy? Absolutely. That’s why I understand the FDA’s motivation to protect the health of Americans. But shouldn’t the government stay out of the personal choices of Americans who want to light up?
Maybe it’s because cigarettes not only harm smokers, but may also harm their children. The FDA seems to suggest this since two of the cigarette labels warn about the health risks to kids. One image shows a wisp of smoke hovering near a child with the warning, “Tobacco smoke can harm your children.” The other shows a newborn in a hospital incubator with the words, “Smoking during pregnancy can harm your baby.” The FDA is concerned that people who freely choose to smoke will harm their children. That’s why they’re going to try to persuade them out of that choice.
But here’s the strange part. Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services (which oversees the FDA), is an outspoken supporter of abortion rights. Not only does she believe a woman has the right to choose to have an abortion, she fights to protect that choice. But she’s against the choice to smoke, partly because of her concern for kids.
If Secretary Sebelius was genuinely concerned about the welfare of children, she would discourage abortion choice, not protect it. Instead, the FDA tries to stop a pregnant woman from harming her child through smoking, but permits her to kill that same child through abortion. Both are free choices. Both harm another body. But only smoking is discouraged, despite abortion being more deadly.
The FDA is rightly concerned about the welfare of children who may be harmed by reckless free choices their parents make. In a White House speech announcing the anti-smoking campaign, Kathleen Sebelius stated that, “These graphic warning labels will…tell the truth…with pictures showing negative health consequences of smoking that are proven to be effective.” She’s right. The warnings will work.
But it’s a shame the FDA won’t tell the truth about abortion and show the negative health consequences of that free choice. They could warn women about abortion by putting a label on the front door of Planned Parenthood clinics: “Although smoking during pregnancy might harm your baby, abortion during pregnancy is guaranteed to kill your baby.” At least then the FDA would be consistent.
Why does the FDA care what I do legally around my kids? Can I still feed them fried chicken every night? How about cotton candy before bed?
I could help the FDA do a pro-life ad. It might go something like this, “This is your child, this is a suction device, and this is what your child looks like now………….any questions?”
If they don’t like the suction device part, they could replace it with acid.
Posted by: KWM | November 17, 2011 at 07:45 AM
Maddening!
Posted by: SteveK | November 17, 2011 at 07:54 AM
It's not a fair comparison. For one, smoking is an addiction. Abortion isn't.
Posted by: Josh Stewart | November 17, 2011 at 08:37 AM
Josh is right. It's not a fair comparison. Smoking is generally not intended to result in harming or killing the unborn. Abortion is soley intended to result in killing the unborn.
Posted by: Chris54 | November 17, 2011 at 10:39 AM
What risks of abortion is the FDA not disclosing?
Re: the warning sign proposed, you're being disengeuous here. People know what an abortion is. They go to a clinic because that is their intention.
People smoke because they like the effects of nicotine. They don't smoke to get lung cancer, or because tracheotomies look cool.
Posted by: Bhilai | November 17, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Bhilai,
>>"People know what an abortion is."
Do they? I think many women know they're pregnant when they go into an abortion clinic and they're not when they leave.
What about the documented adverse psychological effects on the women that have abortions?...just for starters.
Posted by: KWM | November 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM
And to play off your comparison; people don’t have abortions because they like killing human beings, they have abortions because they don’t want to be pregnant.
Posted by: KWM | November 17, 2011 at 11:47 AM
KWM: Foetal death is the purpose of abortion. Nobody *likes* it but they intend it.
Regarding psychological effects, even planned parenthood discusses the psychological effects. Of course, carrying an unwanted pregnancy to term also has some long term psychological risks. I haven't seen any objective research that demonstrates that an abortion causes greater psychological harm.
(I'm also not sure it would be relevant to most objections: few opponents of abortion would change their minds if it was shown that women were virtually universally happy after an abortion. Equally, few people would argue that police officers shouldn't shoot somebody attempting to kill an innocent person if we determined that the police were very unhappy and felt guilty. )
Posted by: Bhilai | November 17, 2011 at 01:36 PM
Alan, I think you may be taking some liberties with Ms. Sebelius' reasoning for her stance on both this anti-smoking campaign and her pro-choice stance. There are probably some important considerations to make before saying someone's stance is "strange". Someone mentioned that smoking is an addiction... which isn't entirely accurate. For instance, I will smoke a cigar maybe once a year or every other year. Am I addicted? Will I get lung cancer or require a tracheotomy? Will I be putting my unborn child at risk? Probably not. I'm not the target of the anti-smoking campaign. The campaign isn't really about taking away a person's choice to smoke. The campaign is aimed at people who have already repeatedly made the choice to smoke and trying to get them to change that choice. An anti-abortion/pro-life campaign has a different goal of preventing most decisions to abort a fetus or making it illegal to choose to abort. Just a quick trip to Wikipedia suggested that even Sebelius "may" have contributed to the reduction of abortions in her state by educating people and encouraging them to make other choices without removing the choice to abort. In that light, her stance is consistent and not strange.
Posted by: jjw | November 17, 2011 at 02:04 PM
The more I think about it, the more it seems like the author of this article simply doesn't get it.
"pro-choice" and "pro-life" are just terms more closely resembling brand names. Pro-choice refers to one specific choice, not choice in general. Same with pro-life. Don't most pro-life people support the death penalty? I'm not arguing either side here, just pointing out that those terms refer to one issue and are not statements about all of a person's beliefs.
Posted by: Bhilai | November 17, 2011 at 02:20 PM
Sure, Bhilai. It’s not a precise comparison. For example, comparing smoking to slavery would be a little off too. I mean, slave owners knew what they were doing. An FDA poster showing a slave being flogged for example wouldn’t be the same.
Posted by: KWM | November 17, 2011 at 03:01 PM
In this article the acts are not being equivocated, but the effect is being analogized. The suggestion is not that smoking around children is equal to aborting foetuses, but that if the state does not consider a foetus a person, then why does smoking during pregnancy matter... So stop drinking the hatorade and start drinking the bubble tea!
Posted by: Lord Emperor JL | November 17, 2011 at 03:37 PM
Lord Emperor: But that's also a bad analogy:
1. Even if you agree that a foetus isn't a person until the umbilical cord is cut, smoking during pregnancy will cause harm to that person.
2. The anti-smoking message pre-supposes that you don't want this outcome. It can be seen as a simple and straightforward reminder that this action, smoking, will have consequences you don't want.
Posted by: Bhilai | November 17, 2011 at 04:10 PM
Hi Bhilai, the death penalty is a pro-life sanction.
Also, even if PP offers psychological services, the profit motive and the obvious conflict of interest shown in some previously exposed deceptions would disqualify this service as biased. I think if we are interested in a fair counseling/psychological service, it should be independently done else only a disengenuous result is likely especially where the prifit motive is present [and I dont offer this warning to non-Christian organizations only btw].
Posted by: Brad B | November 17, 2011 at 06:10 PM
Sebelius, when governor of Kansas, showed her complete lack of interest in the welfare of children when see protected late term abortions of underage girls.
The abortion providers broke the law by not reporting these abortions, shielding the possible child abusers responsible.
The normal pro abortion double standard.
Posted by: Cog | November 18, 2011 at 09:23 AM
I couldn't agree more with you more, Cog. The other similar thing is that PP has a virtual monopoly in providing sex education materials to the government school [indoctrination centers] and they promote promiscuity under the guise of education. The end goal is that more unwanted pregnancies occur which creates demand to offer their remedy for which they caused the need. This is a tidy arrangement for the pro-abortion gang.
Posted by: Brad B | November 18, 2011 at 01:11 PM
That's quite a claim brad. Do you have any evidence for that?
Posted by: Josh Stewart | November 18, 2011 at 02:13 PM
Hi Josh,
I don’t know about Brad’s claim, but PP profits off of providing abortions. Perhaps they wish there were zero abortions and zero abortion revenue. I guess it’s possible, but I doubt it.
Posted by: KWM | November 18, 2011 at 02:25 PM
Josh,
Also, if abortion is just like plucking a tooth, why should they? If there should be no reason to regret having an abortion why should they?
Posted by: KWM | November 18, 2011 at 02:31 PM
KWM, if no one had an abortion next year PP would still have revenue. I know at least 1/4 of thier funding comes from hundreds of thousands of private donors.
Also, saying they want abortions because they profit from them is like saying that because Dave Ramsey makes money off people trying to get out of debt. He wants people to stay in debt. It's bad logic.
Finally, where did I say anything about no one needing to regret an abortion or that's it like pulling a tooth?!
Posted by: Josh Stewart | November 18, 2011 at 03:58 PM
Josh,
You didn't. I was just making the point that if abortion is not a moral issue, PP shouldn't be concerned with the number abortions they perform.
Why doesn't PP charge cost + dr. salary/expenses to perform them? Why do funds have to hit the bottom line?
Your Dave Ramsey comparison assumes Ramsey thinks 'debt' is a bad thing. Is that how PP views abortion? If so, you might want to remind them.
Posted by: KWM | November 18, 2011 at 05:42 PM
Josh,
Just to note, it wasn't "bad logic" at all. I'm looking at it accurately.
Posted by: KWM | November 18, 2011 at 05:44 PM
Hi Josh, legitimate question, I'll see what I can do to reaquaint myself with some sources. When I was involved with OR West, some years back there was an effort to get abstinence education into the school curriculum in California and PP mounted quite a campaign to defeat the movement. At that time it was well documented that PP was the sole provider of sex ed. materials--at least in California. They were the only approved provider by law at that time and had access to nearly every level/age. I doubt that this has changed at all.
Anyway, I'll try to back up the statement as soon as I can. I'm not sure you will be able to prove that PP gets 25% of it's revenue from private donations, but if you have a source for that, I'd be interested in seeing it. The report I just read from a California 2010 report listed the private donation at less than 7% and the bulk of it's revenue directly from various government programs at 64%+-.
Posted by: Brad B | November 18, 2011 at 07:52 PM
Disingenuous ideologies tend to cloak ideology in disingenuous rhetoric. You can tell by the obvious discrepancies. This post offers one such example in the activities of the FDA.
Honest ideologies address apparent discrepancies or difficulties directly and openly. Think orthodox Christianity.
Posted by: Jim Pemberton | November 18, 2011 at 09:09 PM
Think US law.
Posted by: RonH | November 19, 2011 at 08:52 AM
Let me state it more clearly.
To Sebelius and PP, abortion is the greatest good. NOTHING can be allowed to interfere with an abortion on a female of any age.
They, as was shown in Kansas, will gladly turn a blind eye to child rape, incest and forced prostitution if it enables more abortions to get performed.
Posted by: cog | November 19, 2011 at 10:36 AM
If abortion is a woman's right, and
Posted by: ALex | November 19, 2011 at 06:45 PM
the unborn is merely a mass of tissue, that brings up the question of deadbeat dads.
Why should a guy be held responsible for creating a tissue mass. If the fetus is brought to term and becomes a child, isn't that soley the choice of the mother? If having the coice to have the child is the mothers, and her's alone, why do we expect men to support the result?
Posted by: Alex | November 19, 2011 at 06:47 PM
FYI I am not advocating deadbeat dads, but there is a certain logic to this,
Posted by: Alex | November 19, 2011 at 07:31 PM
Alex: The guy isn't responsible for the tissue mass until it leaves the mother. At least, I don't think so - never heard of pre-natal child support.
I don't see why the time that a foetus is considered a person is relevant to this. The guy was, shall we say, a critical part of the process.
As an analogy, if somebody rolls a rock off a cliff and it hits someone, they're responsible even though they didn't *directly* lay a hand. They caused it.
You are right that there is some unfairness involved, but the unfairness is borne out of basic biology. The woman has to take the risks and discomfort of pregnancy.
Child support is supposed to pay for the needs of the child, not the needs of the mother. As a society we have agreed that we don't want children to suffer, and we have decided that both parents have responsibility.
If we could put the baby in daddy's tummy, there might be a chance for parity. But we can't, so what we have is the best balance of three different people's interests.
Posted by: Bhilai | November 19, 2011 at 08:11 PM
Sorry, but the choice to go through the discomfort and raise the child is entirely the woman's. If she doesn't want to, she doesn't have to. She chooses to carry and raise the child of her own free will. The man may have has a minor involvement in the initial stage, but it is the woman's choice for the situation to extend beyond that point. She is not being forced.
The analogy of the rock doesn't apply unless she sees the rock coming down and intentionally decides to place herself I the path when she could easily have avoided it.
Posted by: Alex | November 19, 2011 at 08:27 PM
KWM:
"I was just making the point that if abortion is not a moral issue, PP shouldn't be concerned with the number abortions they perform."
Dental fillings aren't a moral issue - so why do (at least some) dentists try to discourage lots of sugar consumption?
Many, many people are in jobs that depend to a significant amount on the mistakes of others - emergency room doctors, dentists, car mechanics, mountain rescue teams, life guards, etc. Many of them try to reduce the need for their services.
Your logic - that moral reasons would be the only reason to wish for fewer abortions - is just silly.
Posted by: Bhilai | November 19, 2011 at 11:27 PM
Alex, if a guy doesn't want to risk getting a woman pregnant than he should either abstain, go with a woman where this wouldn’t be a risk (she would adopt out, is sterile, etc), or get a vasectomy. Unless this was a one night stand, the guy will probably know what his girlfriend's opinions on having a child are and if he's worried about supporting a child than he can take steps to prevent the pregnancy from happening at all. The man has a choice too. What about his responsibility? Your saying the woman could get an abortion (and I am assuming that you would also be okay with her adopting out afterwards), what about the man’s responsibility in getting her pregnant? The man wasn't forced to have sex with her either and if he's having sex he should be ready to face any potential responsibilities that might arise. If he doesn't like it, he has other options.
Posted by: Marie | November 20, 2011 at 10:46 AM
I am not supporting it, but am trying to work through the logic.
If you are pro-choice, I am assuming that you would not consider the fetus human. Not being human, the father is not responsible for it as it is not his child due to the definition of it not being a child. Once born, being a child, we consider the father to have responsibility.
But it can be argued that the father did not help create a child. He helped create a fetus. It was the mother who chose, on her own, to take the fetus and gestate it to a child.
Therefore the child is the result of the choice of the mother. The father only created the opportunity to have a child. It was the mother who chose to take the opportunity to actualize the choice. Therefore, the father does not have a responsibility for the child.
Posted by: Alex | November 20, 2011 at 02:16 PM
Bhilai
"Many, many people are in jobs that depend to a significant amount on the mistakes of others - emergency room doctors, dentists, car mechanics, mountain rescue teams, life guards, etc. Many of them try to reduce the need for their services.
Your logic - that moral reasons would be the only reason to wish for fewer abortions - is just silly. "
What makes you think that promoting something for the greater good, is not a moral reason? The things you listed as some "alternative" reasons for doing things all entail doing something for the greater good. The attempt at reducing the need for the services you list is promoting the greater good and thus is the moral reason for doing so. Anytime you have the concept of "good" in the mix, it is a moral reason as that word denotes a moral category.
Posted by: Louis Kuhelj | November 20, 2011 at 02:30 PM
Hi Louis, although I think you are on the right track, I think what would denote a moral category is a sense of "oughtness". In other words, obligated duty not from a sense of good--greater or self. That said, I dont think Bhilai has answered KWM's real challenge that PP presents itself as trying to reduce unwanted pregnancies, as though it is morally neutral or compared to a dentist offering advice to reduce cavities. In other words, no one disputes whether a dental procedure is killing an innocent human so a dentist doesn't have that moral question at all--PP does.
Posted by: Brad B | November 20, 2011 at 03:54 PM
Getting back to Josh, I have spent as much time as I have, and have not been able to locate a source for my previous statement. Most of the sources I've found shows that curriculum is either from a governmental agency, [like the FDA, CDC, or various Department of Education] in addition to PP materials. I dont fell compelled to back down too far from my statement since the curriculum is biased still. Government agencies are overwhelmingly morally liberal and sensitive to political correctness rather than simple logic, so I dont see much change even if PP is not the direct source of curriculum
The good news I have found is that abstinence education[in California,again] is to be taught as the primary method to prevent pregnancy and sexually transmitted disease, which is so self evidently true that I'm shocked and disappointed we had to debate this 20 years ago. Then is was a given that abstinence was untenable--you know those young people are just going to do it anyway so we have to give them the tools to do it safely.
Posted by: Brad B | November 20, 2011 at 04:12 PM
BradB
"I dont think Bhilai has answered KWM's real challenge that PP presents itself as trying to reduce unwanted pregnancies, as though it is morally neutral or compared to a dentist offering advice to reduce cavities. "
I agree that is the case. Why would something that is a physical good, not also be a moral good? Are we not obligated to take care of the temple entrusted to us and thus we _ought_ to take _good_ care of it? Just a small stone. :)
Posted by: Louis Kuhelj | November 20, 2011 at 05:50 PM
Alex: That would essentially be forcing the woman to accept the position that the foetus was not a person.
Posted by: Bhilai | November 20, 2011 at 06:35 PM
BradB: What I have interpreted abstinence education to mean, colloquially, is the teaching of abstinence to the exclusion of information about the realities of how diseases are transmitted, what the failure rates of birth control are, etc.
I hear abstinence education advocates speak as if it is self-evidently true that abstinence education can reduce teen pregnancies.
Abstinence is self-evidently the most reliable method of disease and pregnancy prevention. In the real world you need to ask the questions:
1. How many teens will choose to be abstinent because of abstinence education?
2. Of the teens that decide to be abstinent, how many will follow through, vs. how many will give in to temptation?
"Simple logic"? Human behavior is rarely governed by simple logic. As a quick example, some researchers tried making group A feel they were more moral people at the start of an experiment. Group B were encouraged to focus on their moral shortcomings. When given an opportunity to cheat, group A were more likely to cheat. That isn't what simple logic would lead you to believe, is it?
Doesn't Texas have a very high teen pregnancy rate and a very high abstinence only education rate?
Posted by: Bhilai | November 20, 2011 at 06:51 PM
Hi Bhilai, you said:
What I'm saying is self evident is that actual abstinence is effective. To not make the best method of preventing all of the problems of permiscuity the first priority is foolish.
then:
This is a strange thing to say about rational beings. In humans, every behavior is governed by logic at some level, not saying its always good logic mind you. In your stated example, it might well be a perfectly logical outcome that if a group of people could be convinced that they have no need to be wary of their morality and then have it tested to reveal failure while the group on guard for indescretions overcome. The example doesn't seem to help your case.
Posted by: Brad B | November 20, 2011 at 09:58 PM
@BradB: My argument is that there is enough underlying complexity in human behavior that it is difficult to predict a-priori what people will do. Coming up with a post-hoc logical chain is easy; predicting which one will happen is not.
Would going through the details of condom use, carefully explaining what you need to do to get your failure rate down to below 1%, make people think "wow, that sounds tough, I'm really not sure I want to deal with that risk." I don't know - but I'm tired of reading people arguing that any sex education will automatically make people have more sex.
In the field of public health, compliance with advice is always an issue. If you focus on a theoretically effective method with a low real-world compliance rate, you've got a problem. You either need to figure out how to increase compliance, or try to find something slightly less effective but with a higher compliance rate.
Everything I've read indicates that abstinence-only sex ed leaves students into riskier activities if they fail.
Have you seen any good research on what actually works to encourage abstinence?
Posted by: Bhilai | November 20, 2011 at 11:36 PM
What's the big deal? Canada has been doing this for years. It isn't a new idea.
Posted by: Trent | November 21, 2011 at 03:37 AM
omg the images! they're worse on Thailand cigarettes though. even more epic graphic
Posted by: ToNy | November 21, 2011 at 08:27 PM
Tony! Where have you been the last few months. Back in Thailand?
Posted by: Amy | November 22, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Alex, you're right. Its a double standard that women can choose to abort, but men can't choose to have nothing to do w/the born child. Its discrimination in the laws, mostly b/c of an impetus to protect women and abortion, such inconsistencies are required. You can't logically hold both positions.
Posted by: CybrWeez | November 22, 2011 at 11:30 AM
Oh, another thing that seems very ironic here is that a significant part of the FDA's mission is to remove choice. I mean that in a good way - eliminating ineffective or dangerous drugs from the market.
The purpose of virtually all regulatory agencies is to reduce choice - hopefully eliminating choices that harm us all like the choice to pollute or to produce kids toys with leaded paint, etc.
Posted by: Bhilai | November 22, 2011 at 01:56 PM
Here in Canada, there are no laws restricting abortion. I'm told in some places it is an out-patient procedure, however smoking is strongly discouraged.
Posted by: Trent | November 22, 2011 at 04:16 PM