A caller on this week’s show had a friend challenge him with Deuteronomy 13:6-11. Shouldn’t Christians “surely kill” anyone who entices them to serve other gods, as that biblical law demands?
Greg responded by saying that the challenge is based on a misunderstanding of what Deuteronomy is:
The Mosaic Covenant is an agreement that God made with Israel; it is not an agreement God made with anyone else…. Nothing that is in the Mosaic Law applies to me as a Gentile in virtue of it being in the Mosaic Law. No command is incumbent upon me in virtue of being part of the Law.
Here’s the best way to characterize this: You and I both live in California. There is nothing in California law that applies to somebody living in Ohio. Ohio has its own statutes. Now, there is a statute against murder in California. Does that mean since I’m not in California, it’s okay for me to murder in Ohio? No, I’m not under the California statute, but I am under the Ohio statute.
And part of the reason is that there are a lot of rules that are in statutes that turn out to be the kind of rules that should apply in any situation in any state, and you’re going to find them repeated. But then there are also going to be laws and rules that are unique to that state’s situation.
Think of the Mosaic Covenant like a state Law. It was given to the people in that state for that period of time. We are in a different state now. We have a different covenant that applies to us (and that’s the New Covenant) and different moral obligations. We are not obliged by everything in the Mosaic Law. That was a set of civil obligations that were applicable to those people under that time. It was made between God, and Moses, and the Jews….
Does that mean we can go around murdering people because we’re not under the Mosaic Law? No, the obligation not to murder is a universal and should be in any Law….
[A person might say,] “Well, you’re just picking and choosing.” No, I’m not; I have a rationale why this doesn’t apply in the same way and why others might. And the things that do apply as universal moral obligations from the Mosaic Law are going to be repeated in the New Testament to Gentiles. These things are not repeated, because we are not under that theocracy. It’s just exactly like being in a separate state.
To hear Greg’s full answer, listen here (the question starts at 00:36). For a more lengthy discussion on the relationship between Christians and the Mosaic Law, see 40 Questions About Christians and Biblical Law by Thomas Schreiner.
Where does the New Testament forbid beastiality (Lev. 18:23) or cursing the deaf (Lev. 19:14)? (General prohibitions of "sexual immorality" or exhortations to "love" presuppose the details of the Mosaic Law.)
Posted by: Paul | March 21, 2014 at 04:25 AM
Paul,
A misquote on Lev. 19: 14, as it doesn't speak of cursing the deaf, but allowing the ridicule of the handicapped. The better translation runs: “Do not insult the deaf or cause the blind to stumble. You must fear your God; I am the Lord."
As to bestiality, consider the impact of this practice in Paul's day. Were there rampant forms of this ritual that Paul needed to address? You address the problem when it is a problem.
Posted by: DGFischer | March 21, 2014 at 06:38 AM
Paul, I think the NT can (and does) reference the OT for "definitions." When the NT talks about "sexual immorality," the authors know you can see all the gory details in the OT and so don't spell it out. That doesn't mean the capital punishments still apply.
Posted by: ChrisB | March 21, 2014 at 07:01 AM
The NT talks about the "New Covenant" in terms of it being a virtue ethic. There are no laws in the NT, only principles. Thus, the only people able to perceive right and wrong are those who have received God's Spirit and who walk according to that ethic on a continual basis. For example, the principle in the NT is "one woman with a man forever", and that is the main idea about God's plan for marital and sexual relationships. Could there be some sort of exception to that, such as an exception where it wouldn't be wrong to divorce? Well, yes (Jesus himself gives us an exception). It was never Jesus' intention that anything he teaches be set in stone, but it takes a Christian walking in a virtue ethic to understand ethics. This has all sorts of implications in that those who do not believe in Jesus or who do not walk "according to the Spirit" (do not apply the Christian virtue ethic in their lives) will be unable to discern right from wrong in every situation correctly. This is basically what the NT teaches, especially Paul
Posted by: Jberr | March 21, 2014 at 07:25 AM
Could you provide further explanation on the assertion "There are not laws in the NT, only principles"? Thx.
Posted by: Johnny D. Hinton | March 22, 2014 at 05:42 AM