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September 12, 2015

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Question if Tim gets to see this. What about using John chapter 1 and the Johanine prologue? It seems like what can be powerful to a Jehovah's witness is to expose the Watchtower society as maligned and dishonest. Obviously, they translate that the logos is a God, and not as God. Since I have knowledge of Greek, I know that this translation is wrong, and would be more than glad to explain how this is in impossible translation. In fact, in the same chapter, they translate a word in the predicate position and throughout the rest of the book without an article. Complete inconsistency.

My thinking is that Jehovah's witness have likely not been exposed to some Greek. Is showing how their scripture is mistranslated by asking them to answer your questions, explaining the Greek, a valuable strategy? Especially in the Johanine prologue.

To clarify a specific nuance:


The problem lies in your understanding of the expression “fully God/fully man.” This expression is not in fact what the creeds affirm of Christ. What the Chalcedonian statement on the deity and humanity of Christ actually affirms is that Christ is “truly God and truly man” (vere Deus/vere homo). The expression you cite is problematic precisely for the reason you point out: if Christ is totally God, then he cannot be human at all, much less totally human!


People who use the expression “fully God/fully man” do not mean to suggest, I’m sure, that Christ is totally God and totally man, but rather that he is truly God and truly man. But because of its ambiguity and non-credal status, I think it is better to avoid this misleading expression and to use the creedal language.


The Chalcedonian expression vere Deus/vere homo is not oxymoronic (see further my chapter on the Incarnation in Philosophical Foundations for a Christian Worldview [IVP: 2003]). The framers of Chalcedon affirmed that Christ has two distinct natures, one human and one divine. In affirming that the incarnate Christ had two natures, the Church Fathers were stating that Christ exemplified all the properties which go to constitute humanity and all the properties which go to make up deity. In that sense, he had two natures and so belonged to two natural kinds, Man and God. Christ was thus truly human, but he was not merely human.


It is as peculiar affair that the Unitarian cannot fathom two natures in a singularity – for in denying such he is denying all that is reality itself. It is that or else he must (first) embrace either one of two absurdities: Deism or Occasionalism, and also, he must (secondly) embrace the Materialist’s reductionism and deny the necessity of transposition.


What shall we call the metaphysical contours of love? Pure created contingency? Or perhaps purely human? And so on – and so on. No – there is no “problem” with two natures within a singularity – for all that exists just is this or that degree of such. And as we ponder that it becomes unavoidable that the very Logos of God with certainty can and with certainty does birth, generate, sustain, fill, animate, and – therein – become the very essence of the outworking of the Divine Mind. In fact – where created worlds are concerned – it becomes glaringly obvious that such an ontological seam is inescapable. That such can obtain independent of Man, or through Man, or in spite of Man, or what have you, is certain.


In Trinity we find the same amid Logos/Transposition as the Divine Mind reveals both the Knower and the Known – motion void of causation – as anything less collapses into absurdity. And, too we find the same amid love’s unavoidable metaphysical landscape as it is a peculiar affair that should self-giving love in fact be the elemental nature of The True, should self-giving love in fact be the constitutional shape of The Good, then it is inescapable that we have what the Naturalist and the Unitarian cannot truthfully give to us – ever – and what they therefore cannot truthfully assert – ever – as we arrive at what David Bentley Hart describes as the “….absolutely singular and indivisible reality which no inventory of material constituents and physical events will ever be able to eliminate. Here again, and as nowhere else, we are dealing with an irreducibly primordial datum.” The Christian’s sweeping claim conveys us to love's eternally sacrificed self - to the end of all things where we discover the express image of such other-filling amid the express image of such self-emptying within what can only be an ontic-singularity. How odd that love's contours inevitably deliver us into something not only uniquely triune but by all accounts into something necessarily triune as the metaphysical singularity of volitional love’s ceaseless reciprocity amid all that is Self/Other/Us within the Triune God instantiates that very footprint – image – across Mankind’s entire potentiality, across Mankind’s entire actuality. And it is that which is the metaphysical locus where the Christian semantics of potentiality transpose to the Christian semantics of actuality.


But, all of that is another topic entirely. It is enough to say that one who cannot metaphysically fathom (on the one hand) two natures within a singularity or one who (on the other hand) inevitably embraces a kind of metaphysical theological reductionism strangely akin to Naturalism’s absurdities is one who has a metaphysical conceptual capacity that is far too shallow. That such a one must embrace – at some ontological seam somewhere – his own annihilation of love’s ontology needs no comment. To add a bit more and round out the corners, a simple conceptual experiment comes to us in an insightful Amazon Book Review which touches on one author’s imprecise and unsuccessful attempt to discredit the feasibility of the triune:


Dale Tuggy has produced an excellent survey of formulations of the doctrine of the Trinity by analytic philosophers and theologians. Although these formulations aim to be precise and self-consistent, none of them are self-consistent. Fortunately, in Euclid's concept of an equilateral triangle and Augustine's concept of the Trinity there are three realities that are simultaneously numerically distinct and numerically identical.


In Augustine's concept of the Trinity in De Trinitate, Book 1, chapter 4, the reality of the Father, the reality of the Son, and the reality of the Spirit are numerically distinct, because the Father begot the Son; and, therefore, he who is the Father is not the Son. And the Son was begotten by the Father; and, therefore, he who is the Son is not the Father. And the Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son, but only the Spirit of the Father and of the Son. On the other hand, the reality of the Father and of the Son and of the Spirit are numerically identical, because whatever is true of the Father is true of the Son and the Spirit. And whatever is true of the Son is true of the Father and the Spirit. And whatever is true of the Spirit is true of the Father and the Son.


Strictly speaking, in Euclid's concept of an equilateral triangle, each of the three angles is the area formed by two lines diverging from a common point while being bound by a third. For example, angle A is the area covered by the two lines that diverge from point A while being bound by line CB. Looking at this representation of Euclid's concept of an equilateral triangle is sufficient to establish that the reality of angle A, the reality of angle B, and the reality of angle C are numerically distinct, because each of them is an area that begins from a numerically distinct point. On the other hand, because it's impossible to color one of them green without simultaneously coloring the other two green, these three angles or areas are numerically identical.


And so, Euclid's concept of an equilateral triangle is a self-consistent analogy of Augustine's concept of the Trinity.


A little further:


As noted, as we ponder that the Incarnation is not that which morphs the Infinite - but rather it is that by which the Infinite morphs the Finite - it becomes unavoidable that the very Logos of God with certainty can and with certainty does birth, generate, sustain, fill, animate, and – therein – become the very essence of the outworking of the Divine Mind. As noted earlier – where created worlds are concerned it becomes glaringly obvious that such an ontological seam is inescapable. That such can obtain independent of Man, or through Man, or in Man, or in spite of Man, or what have you, is certain. But His motion is clear and so we need not guess: Logos – His Image – the image of an infinite love – the fully divine – will circumscribe, constitute, fill, the fully human.


Love compels our deepest suspicions even as logic affirms their fundamental substance.


Seamless simplicity emerges:


Should self-giving love in fact be the elemental nature of The True, should self-giving love in fact be the constitutional shape of The Good, then it is inescapable that we have what the Naturalist and the Unitarian cannot truthfully give to us – ever – and what they therefore cannot truthfully assert – ever – as we arrive at such silhouettes within the necessity of that “….. irreducibly primordial datum.” The Christian’s sweeping claim conveys us to love's eternally sacrificed self – to the end of all things where we discover the express image of such other-filling amid the express image of such self-emptying within what can only be a metaphysical singularity.


How uncanny that love's contours inevitably deliver us into something not only uniquely triune but by all accounts into something necessarily triune as we are carried into the metaphysical singularity of volitional love’s ceaseless reciprocity amid all that just is the seamless simplicity of Self/Other/Us within the Triune God. If love is anything – and it is – then we find our suspicions compelled by both logic and love into the contours of the Triune God – what David Bentley Hart terms “….. the infinite wellspring of being, consciousness, and bliss that is the source, order, and end of all reality.”

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